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SS. Moyie
« on: June 30, 2009, 03:04:46 am »
SS. Moyie, This is the oldest intact passenger paddlewheeler left. She sits in dry dock in Kaslo BC. Where she once plyed the waters of the Kootaney Lake for 59 years. operated by CP Rail. Have a look at this web site.
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 Superintendent Duchesnay of the CPR had made a preliminary survey of the route in the fall of 1897 and had recommended a fleet of 12 sterwheelers be constructed for the river section. Hoping to grab a huge portian of the freight and passenger service, the CPR accepted his recommendation and awarded contracts for the steamers. Four were to be constructed at Port Blakely in Washington: five at False Creek in Vancouver, and the remaining three in Toronto. Except for the three in Toronto ,all were to be wooden - hulled.

  The Betram Iron Works of toronto was awarded the contracts for the construction of the Moyie and Minto's hulls. By having the prefabricated components manufactured in Toronto and shipped by rail to the coast, the CPR hoped to speed construction and have the vesssels ready for the opening of summer traffic in 1898. although the bottoms were to be planked in wood, the steel sides and bows made them much stronger and less susceptible to damage from ice, features which contributed greatly to the longevity of each of these two sternwheelers. The upper works and cabins were to be constructed at the assembly yards on the BC coast.

  The prefab components of the Minto and the Moyie, each in 1,000 pieces were shipped to the coast as planned. however before any assembly could be undertaken, prospects for the all Canadian route to the Klondike turned sour. Materials for the railway had been delivered and Mackenzie and Mann had surveyed the route, 12 miles of which had been graded. But the Canadian Senate could not stomach the 4,000,000 acre land grant demanded by the railroad builders, and refused to pass the appropriation. The CPR , meanwhile, in anticipation of the project proceeding, had heavily advertised the route and sold thousands of tickets. But when the unfortunate ticket holders arrived, there was no railway, only a rutted trail that even horses had trouble negotiating.

  With the collapse of the Stikine Route, the CPR had to make alternate plans for its new vessels., only four of which actually saw limited service on the Stikine. The Moyie and Minto were diverted to the Kootenays. For this new service it was decided to lengthen the hulls each by 20 feet. Even with this extention , however ,the vessels were not large.

  The Moyie's components arrived at Nelson late June 1898, where a crew of riviters began assembling the frames and steel plating.
This work was completed in about a month and on July 26 the riveters left Nelson for Nakusp to begin work on the Minto. Once the Moyie's hull had been assembeled, carpenters, pipe fitters, and painters took over. finally four months after its components had reached Nelson, the Moyie had been Completed at a cost of $41,275.00 Like her sister Ship  Minto, she was 161 feet [excluding the paddlewheel] 30 feet wide and five feet deep. her engines, each with a single high-pressure cylinder 16 inches in diameter with a stroke of 72 inches, were capable of developing a total nominal horse power of 17.

 Box like in appearance, the Moyie was licenced to carry 250 passengers with freight, 400 without. Minor differences made in each vessel resulted in the gross tonnage of the Moyie , being 835, six more than the Minto.

 In its issue of October 8, the Sandon Mining Review gave a breif description of the Moyie:{The smoking room is 48 feet long,the dining room 27 1/2 feet ,and the ladies cabin 40 feet. There are six staterooms which are being fitted up in first class style. the bar is situated on the port side forwards, and on the same side are the toilet rooms and linen room. on the starboard side are the purser's office and room and the steward's room. on the upper deck are two rooms on each side of the officers and a large room for the waiters.}

 After a successful trail run, the Moyie was brought back to Nelson where coinsiderable work remained to be done on her passenger accommodations.
 
 By 1930, the CPR had substancially curtailed its passenger and railcar barge service on kootenay Lake. This marked the end of over 30 years of [main line serivice] between Nelson or proctor and Kootenay Landing. One by one the steamers and tugs in the fleet were scrapped or sold.

 By 1935 , only the Moyie and Granthall remained. Sternwheelers Nelson, Kokanee, Internatinal, Kaslo, and Kuskanook became only memories. The Nasookin enjoyed a breif reprieve. Purchased bt the BC Government to be used as a car ferry in 1933 she served in that capacity until 1947.

  The Moyie continued to enjoy a happy and close association with all the communities and settlements along the lake., especially the ones that were still isolated and not easily accessible by road. For those places, many with not even a wharf to land at, the pattern and timetable of life beat to the rhythm of the Moyie's paddlewheel. Her regular arrival was a time for all to meet and talk with old friends, greet someone returning home, bid someone farewell, or simply pick up your mail.

  But by the early 1950's even the Moyie was beginning to show signs of her old age. Worst, her service record indicated that she was no longer paying her own way. Over the years rail traffic on the lake had dropped off noticeably, most of the cargo now being handeled by freight and bus lines. In addition people were preferring to take their cars, rather than take a ride on an old boat.
 
  When her sister ship the Minto was retired in 1954, the Moyie remained the only active member of a once large fleet of sternwheelers. But it was clear that her time was also running out. The CPR, facing increasingly high maintenance costs and declining traffic, had no option but to retire its last sternwheeler. In March of 1957 They announced that the Moyie's last run would be made on April 27 1957, bringing and end to 59 years of service.

 During her last 9 hour voyage, the Moyie called on 13 communities and everywhere the reception was warm and sad. Capt. G.A. West of Shutty Beach, boarded her carrying three dozen daffodils for the passengers as he and his wife had done for the past 38 years.,on their spring trip up the lake. Andrew Scott aged 89, who had been at her Nelson launching in 1898 was on board as were many other long time residents of the area. When she tied up to the wharf at Procter late in the afternoon, the end to CPR sternwheeler srevice had come.

  Fortunatley, for posterity, the Moyie did not suffer the indignity of her sister the Minto, which in August of 1968 was towed to the centre of Upper Arrow Lake opposite Nakusp and set ablase. Three years prior to the Moyie's retirement, upon rummers that she was nearing the end of service, Jack Morris , president of the Kaslo Board of Trade, had written to G.A Phillips, the CPR Superintendent at Nelson, expressing the desire of Kaslo to purchase the Vessel and turn it into a museam.

 On May 1 1957 the CPR announced that the Moyie had been sold to the town of Kaslo for $1.00 The Moyie was towed to Kaslo during high water and beached on the lake shore. To prepare a foundation, timbers from the high trestle bridge at Three Forks which had been abandoned by the CPR were purchased. These timbers were laid on the beach and the Moyie was skidded into its present position.

 In 1978 the Moyie was declared a natinal historic site, by Parks Canada.

West Kootenay: The Pioneer Years By Garnet Basque'
copyright 1990
 
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Re: SS. Moyie
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2009, 09:36:35 am »
The scenery looks beautiful there in the background. That ship looks familar :)
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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2009, 11:31:10 am »
Brillent Mark! Now that's the type of articles were after! Just a little Point split of down into paragraphs and you have a perfect article! This one will be placed on the ship index! Well done Mark! So would she have sailed in Canadan Pacific colours then?

The amount they sold her for is shocking only $1.00 {50p} blimey LOL I wish we could do that. LOL
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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2009, 11:47:12 pm »
   I remember when we [my family and I] had our first look at the Moyie, it was the year 1976, she was sitting in dry dock at the foot of town, just above the high water level.

  Little restoration had been done at this point just the basics really. And i recall thinking what a grand old vessel. i was so happy to see her saved for prosoerity. I remember I asked one of the guides what would it cost to get her back to working conditon,that is back in the water making tourist trips. I was told about 1/2 a million dollers is what it would take to re - outfit the boiler and make her ready to go back on the water.

  I thought if I could only come up with that kind of money I would gladley donate to the cause. Well since that time many people have donated money time and energy into the restoration, which is an ongoing labour of love.

  As you can see from the web site a lot has been done so far with a lot to go. My goal will be to visit her again hopefully this fall, to see first hand the work that has been done as far as the restoration has proceeded,Since I first saw her all those years before.

  The entire area is rich in History filled with tales of gold and silver. Fame and fortune, boom and bust, murder and mayhem. The area is also called the Silvery Slocan because of all the silver lead mines in the area. The valley just beyond Kaslo leading to New Denver is referred to as the valley of the Ghosts, was once home to several small fledgling communities that sprang up in the late 1800's all are now gone.

  You can still make out the old train line of the Kaslo Slocan Railway the only narrow gage railway of its kind in North America. But this is best left for another post yes.

  But i will leave you with one interesting bit. When I was on one of my many trips to the area [ I used to go three times a year]
this was back in 1992. I met an older gentleman who told me a rather interesting story.
 
  This was about 10 years before he and his wife were going  between Kaslo and New Denver along Highway 97 it was dusk or twilight as it is sometimes called. They were tired and looking for a place to pull the motor home in for the night. They spotted a older style house with smoke coming out of the chimney and an old woman in period dress from the turn of the 19th century, working in the garden. So they decided that they would pull in and ask if they could park for the night in the yard. Well they turned into the drive and went around a long corner. When they came into the yard the house and the old lady were gone, All that was left was a broken down foundation with the remains of the chimney left upright. the garden bed was overgrown with an assortment of weeds and trees that had been there a long time.

 They were left with the feeling that they were not supposed to be there and guickly left. The man was very sincere in his story and I for one beleive it, as I have heard similar accounts by others. Very Interesting.
 

 

 
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2009, 11:59:48 pm »
Thanks Mark! I hope you see her and take some pictures off her for all of us too see LOL and as well it would be nice to see bigger resolution images of her so we can see what's been done during the past!
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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2009, 12:39:02 am »
If you ever get the chance to make it over Chris I shall take you and Katie for a road trip to the area so you can see for yourselves the beauty of the area. and why I love it so much.
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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2009, 12:40:41 am »
I am looking into it next year but it's quite expensive LOL may do if I can afford to at the time LOL.
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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2009, 12:44:42 am »
2010 is the year of the winter Olympics so they will have some really good deals on airfare and such to get people to come. that and the city will be putting on its game face ready for millions of tourists.
 let me know ahead of time so i can book of holidays some times it is difficult to book when i need to and have to wait in line behind others with more senority.
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2009, 03:28:06 am »
This area has to be the nicest in the province. With it's rich history and scenery. i encourage any of you visiting BC to check it out. You will not be dissapointed I assure you.
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2009, 06:24:36 pm »
Thank's Mark.
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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2009, 08:35:48 pm »
Any time Mate.
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2009, 10:19:50 pm »
I will have to post a short history of the area yes. as I love the area so much I wish to share with the rest of you.
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2010, 07:34:56 am »

Here is the Moyie in postcard form I found in my collection
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2010, 08:50:08 am »
How far away from Mission is the ship museum?
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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2010, 08:52:41 am »
The Moyie is a good 8 1/2 hours straight driving from Mission. :(
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« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2010, 08:57:39 am »
Quote from:  link=topic=229.msg12058#msg12058 date=
The Moyie is a good 8 1/2 hours straight driving from Mission. :(

Time to google earth and take a look!
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« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2010, 09:06:25 am »
Nailed it,  Looks like she is now out the water.  Kootenay is one hell of a puddle, very long and narrow.  Kaslo seems a little remote, given its' location looks like very much a tourist spot?

I've just created a topic in the Preservations & Restorations section that directs you to the website.
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« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2010, 09:10:36 am »
Kootenay lake is the longest at 80 odd miles long and one if not the deepest at 800 feet or more in places. Kaslo is one of the most beutiful spots. I love it a lot. It has a lot of people live there lumber and Hwyways are big employers as well of a lot of shops and resterants, and yes a lot of tourist do go up there. there is also sking and winter sports galore as well as some of the best fishing in the province.
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« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2010, 09:11:58 am »
What's the climate like in that neck of the woods?
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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2010, 09:15:58 am »
Much like Jolly old England really. It does get snow in winter and can be cold. summer is warm and dry. I find it a toss up weather I like kaslo better or New Denver further down the road on Slocan lake. I really want to relocate up there as I love the whole area and spend as much time as I can up there.
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« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2010, 09:18:15 am »
I was thinking the same thing, no disrespect to Mission but this looks like a part of the country that would tempt a move (certainly in my head anyway).
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« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2010, 09:19:04 am »
You must check out Ainsworth Hot Springs on Google Earth just down the road from Kaslo about 10 min drive.
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« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2010, 09:21:11 am »
Amen Brother.I'm up for a move at any point. Mind you why I like it so much up there is because it reminds me of home. same trees and flora and fauna.
There is a large number of ex - pats living up there as well.
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« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2010, 09:29:29 am »
The other thing that is cool is they have the worlds longest free ferry ride across the lake from Balfour. Just down from Ainsworth. The area is rich in History and is home to some very interesting ghost towns as well as some of the most breath taking sceanery in BC. The best part it is still realativley unkown to a lot of people and thus not as populated as other parts. Lots of good land deals to be had as well. lower prices than the rest of the province. mind you the are slowly going up as well :(
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« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2010, 04:01:42 pm »
Another bit of interest, Kaslo is close to the big city of Nelso, which is home to the largest collection of hippies this side of 1969. Very interesting place to visit as well.
The next valley over is the Slocan Valley which is all organic, hence a lot of tree huggers live there. The entire are is as rich in history and stories as the silver lead ore mined out of the surronding mountains.
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« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2010, 06:30:46 pm »
A great read Mark, I can`t believe I missed this topic  ::) The SS Moyie looks stunning, hopefully one day mate you could make the trip and take some pics to post, or even better I can make it over and see her for myself, now that would be sweet  ;D
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« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2010, 06:38:03 pm »
I'm with you there mate. Come on over I would love to take ypu up to the Kootaney, the most spectacular place in the whole counrty I think. ;D
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